Comments on Getting Started with Pylons/TurboGears 2: Modern Python Web Development
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Thanks for the very useful feedback. I know that...
Anonymous · 2008-03-15T14:48:00
Thanks for the very useful feedback. I know that this tutorial was a very valuable learning experince for me.
I wish things had gone more smoothly with the afternoon tutorial, as we definitely had a lot of material we didn't get to cover because of the technical difficulties.
We'd planned to have a TurboGears 2 release out in febuary, but there were several unanticipated problems, and in spite of our best efforts it didn't happen. This put us in a rough place because the tutorial was billed as a TG2 tutorial, so it seemed like we'd make people mad if we didn't cover TG2. ;) Ben and I were up until 4 AM moving things forward to the place where we could cut a release the morning of the tutorial.
And given the network connectivity that put us in a very bad position.
Beyond that, I think doing a joint Pylons+TG tutorial was probably not the most productive thing to do for our users.-- because our audience was split between people who were primarily interested in one framework or the other.
Anyway, circumstances, technical difficulties, and a couple of unfortunate choices made this tutorial very hard to do, and made it a less than ideal experience for the students. So, I'm going to do everything I can to make that right for people. So, here's my ofer, if you were at the tutorials and there's anything I can do to help you learn TG or Pylons, let me know and I'll try my best to make that happen. (Mark dot Ramm @ gmail dot com)
Mark:Thanks for the response. Partly the disappoin...
Steve · 2008-03-15T17:55:00
Mark:
Thanks for the response. Partly the disappointment was because I have enjoyed previous presentations, and knew this was not a typical performance. I know from my own training work that sometimes circumstances conspire against us, and that the problems weren't all down to the presenters. I also know that your integrity would have been insulted by a dishonest review.
As you say, it was a learning experience, and I know you and Ben will be back with fabulous presentations next year—hopefully one each!
PS: next year I know the networking will be better. It's been a learning experience for the organizers too ...
Thanks for the very useful feedback. I know that...
Anonymous · 2008-03-15T14:48:00
Thanks for the very useful feedback. I know that this tutorial was a very valuable learning experince for me.I wish things had gone more smoothly with the afternoon tutorial, as we definitely had a lot of material we didn't get to cover because of the technical difficulties.
We'd planned to have a TurboGears 2 release out in febuary, but there were several unanticipated problems, and in spite of our best efforts it didn't happen. This put us in a rough place because the tutorial was billed as a TG2 tutorial, so it seemed like we'd make people mad if we didn't cover TG2. ;) Ben and I were up until 4 AM moving things forward to the place where we could cut a release the morning of the tutorial.
And given the network connectivity that put us in a very bad position.
Beyond that, I think doing a joint Pylons+TG tutorial was probably not the most productive thing to do for our users.-- because our audience was split between people who were primarily interested in one framework or the other.
Anyway, circumstances, technical difficulties, and a couple of unfortunate choices made this tutorial very hard to do, and made it a less than ideal experience for the students. So, I'm going to do everything I can to make that right for people. So, here's my ofer, if you were at the tutorials and there's anything I can do to help you learn TG or Pylons, let me know and I'll try my best to make that happen. (Mark dot Ramm @ gmail dot com)
Mark:Thanks for the response. Partly the disappoin...
Steve · 2008-03-15T17:55:00
Mark:Thanks for the response. Partly the disappointment was because I have enjoyed previous presentations, and knew this was not a typical performance. I know from my own training work that sometimes circumstances conspire against us, and that the problems weren't all down to the presenters. I also know that your integrity would have been insulted by a dishonest review.
As you say, it was a learning experience, and I know you and Ben will be back with fabulous presentations next year—hopefully one each!
PS: next year I know the networking will be better. It's been a learning experience for the organizers too ...
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