Do you think it would be a good idea for the PSF t...
Dougal · 2009-07-12T13:53:46.595000
Do you think it would be a good idea for the PSF to broaden its membership base in this way?
Yes.
If you aren't a nominated member, would you like to become an associate? If so, why?
I would. Why? It's a bit hard to say but I think it would make me feel like I was contributing and make me feel 'part of' something. It would be a nice claim to make and would show people you are serious about Python and not just another coder. Although its not a qualification it would look good on a CV.
What would you like to get from an associate membership? What could the Foundation offer in return for some annual payment?
Perhaps membership rates at conferences? We love tshirts. Logo's or badges to put on websites would be cool too. Just various marketing things. I would expect python.org to be improved - much like the suggestions that came up in the talk.
What should that payment be?
Anually - £50?
What could (or should) the Foundation be doing for you and Python that it isn't already?
Providing more support for getting people into using python, involved in working on python itself etc.
Hello Steve,
What about special registration disc...
Rodolpho Eckhardt · 2009-07-12T14:00:11.566000
Hello Steve,
What about special registration discounts at PyCon and related conferences? Or special hotel rates?
I'd be happy to contribute even if there wasn't a direct reward for it.
BRgds!
I was at europython and thought it was a great ide...
Ross · 2009-07-12T14:28:00.578000
I was at europython and thought it was a great idea! I would love to be an associate in order to show my support and help the Python community in the future - after all the more successful Python is the more choice and diverse a career I can have using Python!
Other than financial support, I think the idea was also about activating members of the community that know they want to support Python but they don't know how! So I'd hope it would aim for associates to help, encourage and support newbies into Python. Also I'd want it to provide a forum for associates to discuss and collaborate on new ideas that would help drive Python adoption.
Perhaps an associates manifesto akin to the agile manifesto would be the focal point of being an associate?
In return from PSF I'd like a tee-shirt and a maybe a pony! And I'd pay up to £10 (sterling) a month to show my support!
In short I want to help and if I can only help financially thats fine, I would also like to support beyond that in an organised way.
I too would like to help PSF by paying for a membe...
Anonymous · 2009-07-12T17:51:33.752000
I too would like to help PSF by paying for a membership but I don't think I would pay for a non-voting membership; to be honest I don't know how PSF operates, but why can't members vote? I think it would be great if the right to vote was part of the deal just like IEEE or ACM.
--Yuce
I would pay $50 for a Certificate to put up at wor...
Paddy3118 · 2009-07-12T17:59:44.495000
I would pay $50 for a Certificate to put up at work just to put one over the Perl Mongers; plus a dedicated web page listing all associates in name order - with a direct link from the python.org main page.
A logo for my blog would be nice too (For the year that the assocciate fee would apply for).
A Python Associate 2009 ring and a tie-pin would be good too.
I would pay 100 $AUD annually to maintain a member...
Anonymous · 2009-07-12T23:54:52.975000
I would pay 100 $AUD annually to maintain a membership. I wonder -- would it be tax deductible? I would pay either way. I would like for my money:
-- A glasses-cleaning silk with the PSF logo -- A membership number -- Some kind of statement about what the additional funds were being used for, so I could feel excited that my dollars were contributing to some concrete positive outcome
Python got me my job, and it's a big part of my professional career. I would be more than happy to be able to give a little back.
-T
What's the PSF, again?
Titus Brown · 2009-07-13T01:38:05.922000
What's the PSF, again?
"What would you like to get from an associate...
aroldo · 2009-07-13T06:20:46.328000
"What would you like to get from an associate membership? What could the Foundation offer in return for some annual payment?"
It's the opposite. Probably, if I were paying about 100 Euro a year for the Foundation, I woud ask not so much what the Foundation can do for me, but rather ask what I can do for the Foundation. Having fostering members doesn't necessarily imply changing the the Foundation's present decision-making structure. All the abovementioned t-shirts, nice buttons, financially irrelevant but ego-massaging rebates on conference fees, etc,etc, will do. Don't underestimate the Python community's subliminal patriotism: we're prepared to pay a moderate contribution just for the feeling of being there.
I enjoyed your talk at europython - I already pay ...
Richard H · 2009-07-13T08:39:20.086000
I enjoyed your talk at europython - I already pay N pounds a month to various causes and would be happy to set up a direct debit that provided tangible benefits to my favourite programming language, maybe five or ten pounds a month. I don't want any more t shirts, but a small badge or a card for my wallet might be a nice touch. I'd appreciate a discount for a subscription to python magazine, that would be useful. And a letter detailing the benefits our contributions were making.
just my 0.02
I think it's definitely a good idea for the PS...
Anonymous · 2009-07-13T09:28:43.855000
I think it's definitely a good idea for the PSF (or possibly some other organisation, but let's say the PSF for now) to have a broader membership base.
The model I'm thinking of is something like a medium sized charity: Amnesty or WWF. What I think Python needs is a way for people to substitute money for effort. So, I'm concerned about human rights, torture in foreign countries. I could write letters to my MP, organise delegations to go and observe foreign elections, visit prisoners... What a hassle. What I actually do is give Amnesty a tenner a month.
You get a magazine 4 times a year and hassled at christmas time to buy tat from their ridiculously expensive shop.
So it's a way for people to say, well, I could organise local Python meetings, write to my MP about software patents, or fix a few Python bugs, but what I'm actually going to do is give the PSF a fiver a month (yeah, I don't care about Python as much).
This sort of membership is also useful when you get into a bragging match with other groups. You, the PSF, can write to MPs, speak before committees and stuff, and say, "we represent our 120,000 members and we think your ideas suck".
Do you think it would be a good idea for the PSF t...
Dougal · 2009-07-12T13:53:46.595000
Do you think it would be a good idea for the PSF to broaden its membership base in this way?Yes.
If you aren't a nominated member, would you like to become an associate? If so, why?
I would. Why? It's a bit hard to say but I think it would make me feel like I was contributing and make me feel 'part of' something. It would be a nice claim to make and would show people you are serious about Python and not just another coder. Although its not a qualification it would look good on a CV.
What would you like to get from an associate membership? What could the Foundation offer in return for some annual payment?
Perhaps membership rates at conferences? We love tshirts. Logo's or badges to put on websites would be cool too. Just various marketing things. I would expect python.org to be improved - much like the suggestions that came up in the talk.
What should that payment be?
Anually - £50?
What could (or should) the Foundation be doing for you and Python that it isn't already?
Providing more support for getting people into using python, involved in working on python itself etc.
Hello Steve, What about special registration disc...
Rodolpho Eckhardt · 2009-07-12T14:00:11.566000
Hello Steve,What about special registration discounts at PyCon and related conferences? Or special hotel rates?
I'd be happy to contribute even if there wasn't a direct reward for it.
BRgds!
I was at europython and thought it was a great ide...
Ross · 2009-07-12T14:28:00.578000
I was at europython and thought it was a great idea! I would love to be an associate in order to show my support and help the Python community in the future - after all the more successful Python is the more choice and diverse a career I can have using Python!Other than financial support, I think the idea was also about activating members of the community that know they want to support Python but they don't know how! So I'd hope it would aim for associates to help, encourage and support newbies into Python. Also I'd want it to provide a forum for associates to discuss and collaborate on new ideas that would help drive Python adoption.
Perhaps an associates manifesto akin to the agile manifesto would be the focal point of being an associate?
In return from PSF I'd like a tee-shirt and a maybe a pony! And I'd pay up to £10 (sterling) a month to show my support!
In short I want to help and if I can only help financially thats fine, I would also like to support beyond that in an organised way.
I too would like to help PSF by paying for a membe...
Anonymous · 2009-07-12T17:51:33.752000
I too would like to help PSF by paying for a membership but I don't think I would pay for a non-voting membership; to be honest I don't know how PSF operates, but why can't members vote? I think it would be great if the right to vote was part of the deal just like IEEE or ACM.--Yuce
I would pay $50 for a Certificate to put up at wor...
Paddy3118 · 2009-07-12T17:59:44.495000
I would pay $50 for a Certificate to put up at work just to put one over the Perl Mongers; plus a dedicated web page listing all associates in name order - with a direct link from the python.org main page.A logo for my blog would be nice too (For the year that the assocciate fee would apply for).
A Python Associate 2009 ring and a tie-pin would be good too.
I would pay 100 $AUD annually to maintain a member...
Anonymous · 2009-07-12T23:54:52.975000
I would pay 100 $AUD annually to maintain a membership. I wonder -- would it be tax deductible? I would pay either way. I would like for my money:-- A glasses-cleaning silk with the PSF logo
-- A membership number
-- Some kind of statement about what the additional funds were being used for, so I could feel excited that my dollars were contributing to some concrete positive outcome
Python got me my job, and it's a big part of my professional career. I would be more than happy to be able to give a little back.
-T
What's the PSF, again?
Titus Brown · 2009-07-13T01:38:05.922000
What's the PSF, again?"What would you like to get from an associate...
aroldo · 2009-07-13T06:20:46.328000
"What would you like to get from an associate membership? What could the Foundation offer in return for some annual payment?"It's the opposite. Probably, if I were paying about 100 Euro a year for the Foundation, I woud ask not so much what the Foundation can do for me, but rather ask what I can do for the Foundation. Having fostering members doesn't necessarily imply changing the the Foundation's present decision-making structure. All the abovementioned t-shirts, nice buttons, financially irrelevant but ego-massaging rebates on conference fees, etc,etc, will do. Don't underestimate the Python community's subliminal patriotism: we're prepared to pay a moderate contribution just for the feeling of being there.
I enjoyed your talk at europython - I already pay ...
Richard H · 2009-07-13T08:39:20.086000
I enjoyed your talk at europython - I already pay N pounds a month to various causes and would be happy to set up a direct debit that provided tangible benefits to my favourite programming language, maybe five or ten pounds a month. I don't want any more t shirts, but a small badge or a card for my wallet might be a nice touch. I'd appreciate a discount for a subscription to python magazine, that would be useful. And a letter detailing the benefits our contributions were making.just my 0.02
I think it's definitely a good idea for the PS...
Anonymous · 2009-07-13T09:28:43.855000
I think it's definitely a good idea for the PSF (or possibly some other organisation, but let's say the PSF for now) to have a broader membership base.The model I'm thinking of is something like a medium sized charity: Amnesty or WWF. What I think Python needs is a way for people to substitute money for effort. So, I'm concerned about human rights, torture in foreign countries. I could write letters to my MP, organise delegations to go and observe foreign elections, visit prisoners... What a hassle. What I actually do is give Amnesty a tenner a month.
You get a magazine 4 times a year and hassled at christmas time to buy tat from their ridiculously expensive shop.
So it's a way for people to say, well, I could organise local Python meetings, write to my MP about software patents, or fix a few Python bugs, but what I'm actually going to do is give the PSF a fiver a month (yeah, I don't care about Python as much).
This sort of membership is also useful when you get into a bragging match with other groups. You, the PSF, can write to MPs, speak before committees and stuff, and say, "we represent our 120,000 members and we think your ideas suck".
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